When Taylor Swift joined Travis Kelce and Jason Kelce on the New Heights podcast, we expected to learn a lot about The Life of a Showgirl, and we did. But we learned even more about the relationship dynamic between Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift, including what they talked about on their first date and the green flags they see in each other.

I was like if this guy isn’t crazy, um, which is a big if, this is sort of what I’ve been writing songs about wanting to happen to me since I was a teenager,” Swift said